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The Fallacy of Assumption....(No, not that of YL/Abs)   ..did I hurt your feelings?...Well, if I did, then, you are guilty, as charged)...First of all, if you have no direct involvement and therefore have no business about any arguments or misunderstandings of common friends, just stay "neutral"..I know, it's hard for others NOT to take sides...It would be best to be straightforward and spit out some fires, get it done and over with. They say that "All Is Fair in Love and War"...Really? Is it also true with the cold wars? I don't think so...If you keep it within, and assume that the other person gets it, then, I think YOU DON'T GET IT, YOURSELF! Ahhh! it's better to get things off your chest, for once or one time. If the assumed issue(s) are settled, then, it's time to pick up the pieces where you left off. It is a choice to stay being "friends" if your relationship qualifies for that, or just being acquaintances, if it's just that...But assuming that you are enemies?...Well, you can harbor that ill feelings, and grow more wrinkles. If you said your piece, feel good about it. Silence can mean both ways. Either you want a respite from unpleasantries, or you just don't want to have anything to do with the person anymore..It takes courage to break the silence in favor of the former, but it even takes a lot more courage to say to someone, "I don't need you in my life, ever, anymore!"..In this world, they say there are no permanent friends and enemies/ Give yourself a pat in the shoulder if you are able to understand and fairly deal with the fallacy of assumption...Now, let me give credit, where the credit is due..I thank Mr. YL/AbsolutelyInLove for the title...In this blogspace, I believe, the copyright is his.. Just call me ELZ  |
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5/25/2012 4:09 pm |
Oh wow! I am so amazed as to how fast FFF approved this blog...Finally, they seem to do something right.. Just call me ELZ
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5/25/2012 4:10 pm |
Or maybe, I assumed that it'll take them forever to make this blog visible?   Just call me ELZ
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5/25/2012 4:46 pm |
In fairness, I see it right now, Charlie....So it's a good day for FFF... Just call me ELZ
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5/25/2012 4:48 pm |
And make that a pat on the shoulder, coz I don't want to edit my blog anymore "assuming" that FFF might take time to show it again... Just call me ELZ
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Elz, I know where this is coming from. Staying nuetral is for me. Because i know both are good and can't think anything bad. Given all the benefits of the doubt. Happy Friday!!! Greatest feelings in the world when two souls profess a love for each other...
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5/25/2012 6:20 pm |
Elz, I know where this is coming from. Staying nuetral is for me. Because i know both are good and can't think anything bad. Given all the benefits of the doubt. Happy Friday!!!  I know you enough to say that you do not involve yourself to other people's business...Way to go, girl! Happy Memorial Day Weekend!Just call me ELZ
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I must be out of the loop or it must be between women when I just shy away from knowing about it. But you're right Elz, one must not make a statement unless one is sure about it. As they always say, don't ASSUME, it can make an A$$ out of U and ME. Still it will be admirable if one party can take responsibility and admit that s/he made a mistake and if the other party can be forgiving. If this were between men, I'm sure someone's kneecap would be busted by now unless they are from ELR who yak at each other trying to impress the ladies with their foul mouths. I'm a senior citizen . Don't expect me to remember anything
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Hello Tess! I know you enough to say that you do not involve yourself to other people's business...Way to go, girl! Happy Memorial Day Weekend!good nite and enjoy the holiday  Greatest feelings in the world when two souls profess a love for each other...
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5/25/2012 9:41 pm |
I must be out of the loop or it must be between women when I just shy away from knowing about it. But you're right Elz, one must not make a statement unless one is sure about it. As they always say, don't ASSUME, it can make an A$$ out of U and ME. Still it will be admirable if one party can take responsibility and admit that s/he made a mistake and if the other party can be forgiving. If this were between men, I'm sure someone's kneecap would be busted by now unless they are from ELR who yak at each other trying to impress the ladies with their foul mouths. Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 2:49 am |
Migz, just pay close attention to HOW THEY POST COMMENTS AND BLOG...Their style betrays themselves, even though the fonts are not the same  Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 3:49 am |
well i know im out of the loop. but i have to be careful with what i say because im not sure of the whole situation. im just not sure why someone keeps getting their feelings hurt. unless someone just keeps choosing the wrong persons to be invovled with . or being being tricked by all the sweet talk. but then im out of the loop anyway
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5/26/2012 4:10 am |
well i know im out of the loop. but i have to be careful with what i say because im not sure of the whole situation. im just not sure why someone keeps getting their feelings hurt. unless someone just keeps choosing the wrong persons to be invovled with . or being being tricked by all the sweet talk. but then im out of the loop anyway Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 8:31 am |
Elz, welcome back you have very interesting points here. Recently I felt this prejudice, the people who used to greet me warmly are the same ones who gives me cold treatment some called me "pimps", "whore" "mamasang" or even "tanga" just because my best friend is there enemy, I always support my friend but it doesn`t mean I always agree with his, hard for them to understand that, but my love for my bestfriend doesn`t change, that`s why we`re clicked, we have common understanding and we don`t mixed personals.......I didn´t say anything nor retaliate, I told if that makes them happy so be it as everyone is entitled to their own opinion...I am not really affected as I know myself better I have no ill feeling with anyone either and my happiness doesn`t depend on them.....Making comments when you already passed prejudice is unwise and will not bring further in my opinion Sometimes silence is goldenI`d rather choose to sing in my blog than promote hatred either
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i am the same person both online and offline, that will save some people from making assumptions, what you see is what you get...i don't present a polished version of myself in here, as i am not afraid to show my shadow side  ...with regards to my "real" (not online) friends involved in misunderstandings, i do take sides but i seldom get involved unless i'm directly attacked too...i don't accuse people unless i have proofs, meaning i don't easily assume...i don't judge unless i am judged first...i don't promote hatred by stating facts...and i don't claim silence as saving grace when i keep on dropping comments in my friends' blogs defending myself... and i am no coward...i say what i have to say to one's face...not when the person is not around and busy in the real world ...this is for AJAW...if you can prove any of what i'll write here is an assumption and something i made up to pass judgement on you, i will publicly apologize! you said you were called many names because of your best friend whom you love...that you are being ignored because we thought you took up his side when as you said "you will always support him without agreeing with him all the time"... first, i don't know about the "pimp" and "mamasang"...but i did mentioned "whore" and "tanga"...to refresh your memory, this is what happened... i was chatting at ELR when casper chatted with me, you were there also and you knew it was me...it was amiable at first but when he learned i know a lot of things about him, he started being abusive, insulting and offensive...among other things, he accused me of being one of those women he f*cked (his own words) and who owes him money...YOU were quick to point out and judge that i must be ELLEYN (whoever that is)...later, from casper's ramblings and bragging, it was made clear that Elleyn was his gf in Singapore whom he said he f*ucked for money...i told casper i was never one of his whores or will ever be (so it couldn't be me)...you made the  icon when i said that...i never mentioned you as one of his whores!i let that incident passed without calling your attention to what you did...by assuming that i was ELLEYN, you have already prejudged me... then came another incident...i was chatting again at ELR...casper butted in...i told him to back off but he continued with his insults...calling me old in a derogatory manner...saying i am after him and i want to be f*cked by him...i retaliated and hurled back insults too...you were on the side...and you know what you did AJAW?...you were making the icon all the time...at times the icon, applauding him...if that is not taking side and showing support i don't know what is...i was pissed off more by your insensitivity and callousness, so i said what was on my mind to your face...twice or thrice i posted the word "TANGA" (stupid)...but i didn't say you...it was you who said i was calling you "tanga"...i told you right there and then that i didn't said it was you but that if the shoe fits you can wear it...i can't understand how a filipina can watch with glee while the same people, like MEBELLA and CHARMZ, also filipinas at that, who "greeted you warmly" are being attacked and insulted by your "loving" best friend...you were there all those times!...and all those times, you were posting the icon!...i was watching on the side, not once did i come to my "friends" aid...i said i'll blog about casper...and he bragged he'll be proud to see his handle and yours in my blog...i just made good my words...and if you can point out anything in my blog as something i made up and that it didn't happened, then i'll admit it's promoting hatred...and i'll just happily copy paste songs and quotes in my blogs... "Making comments when you already passed prejudice is unwise and will not bring further in my opinion Sometimes silence is golden "while i was away, you were chatting about me with casper and goldness...and about the blog i posted...so much for silence now, who made assumptions and took side??? - copperqueen aka luv-a-fair
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sorry elz...i don't believe in "silence" when i have something to say...and when someone is subtly trying to turn the table on me ...i am no coward, i am no liar...i have witnesses to prove what i posted... welcome back! ...to the world of puppets and clowns
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5/26/2012 4:22 pm |
Elz, welcome back you have very interesting points here. Recently I felt this prejudice, the people who used to greet me warmly are the same ones who gives me cold treatment some called me "pimps", "whore" "mamasang" or even "tanga" just because my best friend is there enemy, I always support my friend but it doesn`t mean I always agree with his, hard for them to understand that, but my love for my bestfriend doesn`t change, that`s why we`re clicked, we have common understanding and we don`t mixed personals.......I didn´t say anything nor retaliate, I told if that makes them happy so be it as everyone is entitled to their own opinion...I am not really affected as I know myself better I have no ill feeling with anyone either and my happiness doesn`t depend on them.....Making comments when you already passed prejudice is unwise and will not bring further in my opinion Sometimes silence is goldenI`d rather choose to sing in my blog than promote hatred either Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 4:25 pm |
I know, Dahlen...I know. And it's always good to be straightforward. SOmetimes, by showing your true self, people think of the negatives, only to find out the most sensitive person in you. Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 4:31 pm |
Ahahahahaha! Charlie...I am a noble woman..You have your Kingdon on the Rez..Blogging has been part of my activities here in FFF for almost 6 years now, as opposed to "man-hunting" that most people believe I am in..As a matter of fact, percentage wise, not even 10% and that was during the first year only. It didn't take me long to realize that "for me", this is not the right place to catch one.. I am content to see you and the rest who are successful in finding your match(es)...Thanks for your witty posts.. Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 4:33 pm |
I stay neutral most of the time since way back in school when friends fight between each other. It's like playing the piggy in the middle, sending messages back and forth because neither would speak to each other. So I'd rather not get involved. On the other hand, silent treatment from my side is a period for me to calm the fire and I shut up after I said my piece.    within each one of us, and let it begin with me (and each one of us)..one breath at a time.
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5/26/2012 4:33 pm |
sorry elz...i don't believe in "silence" when i have something to say...and when someone is subtly trying to turn the table on me ...i am no coward, i am no liar...i have witnesses to prove what i posted...welcome back! ...to the world of puppets and clowns I have been here long enough to wing it and play it by ear. My keyboard is still clear enough for me to express my thoughts, and my eyes are clear as well to read comments from real people, puppets, and clowns...Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 4:38 pm |
Besides I don't know what goes on in blogland that's why I say nothing. Unless someone directly shares the information then it's time to ask questions if there's any truth in it. within each one of us, and let it begin with me (and each one of us)..one breath at a time.
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5/26/2012 5:59 pm |
I stay neutral most of the time since way back in school when friends fight between each other. It's like playing the piggy in the middle, sending messages back and forth because neither would speak to each other. So I'd rather not get involved. On the other hand, silent treatment from my side is a period for me to calm the fire and I shut up after I said my piece. Just call me ELZ
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5/26/2012 6:12 pm |
Besides I don't know what goes on in blogland that's why I say nothing. Unless someone directly shares the information then it's time to ask questions if there's any truth in it. Just call me ELZ
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5/27/2012 5:49 pm |
This is a small world and a small space. People who are here in blogsville, mostly know each other, if not they know "themselves" (talking about having multiple handles) Unless someone confesses directly who is behind the handle and their previous handle, then I can only suspect it might be him or her, but I don't really know for sure. Wish they'd make it easier. Even pictures can't be a reliable source as I've found out from commenting once on a blogger that I'm not familiar with. It turned out that I'd posted on a made up profile name copying badly the real blogger's profile name using the real blogger's picture. I apologised afterwards along with the other commentators on the blog who didn't know who she was. I don't blame the real blogger for being angry from the content of the blog post. It can all be a bit confusing trying to work out the Japeyks and the real Mccoys.  Japeyks (courtesy of the FFF ladies for teaching me this slang). within each one of us, and let it begin with me (and each one of us)..one breath at a time.
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5/27/2012 7:31 pm |
I spend mostly not knowing what goes on in this small world, apart from the obvious like if certain handles used intentionally trying to blacken someone else's name. I've ignored the messages in the past as I dunno what they're talking about. Unless someone confesses directly who is behind the handle and their previous handle, then I can only suspect it might be him or her, but I don't really know for sure. Wish they'd make it easier. Even pictures can't be a reliable source as I've found out from commenting once on a blogger that I'm not familiar with. It turned out that I'd posted on a made up profile name copying badly the real blogger's profile name using the real blogger's picture. I apologised afterwards along with the other commentators on the blog who didn't know who she was. I don't blame the real blogger for being angry from the content of the blog post. It can all be a bit confusing trying to work out the Japeyks and the real Mccoys. Japeyks (courtesy of the FFF ladies for teaching me this slang). I've actually read the exchanges, but I just shrugged my shoulders..It's their business, and no way I'd meddle with it. If mistakes were made, one can only apologize and be forgiven..but most of the time, both are hard to do...Yeah?Just call me ELZ
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