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fantasiamore2 72F
860 posts
7/26/2021 9:22 pm
Why Marriage Is Not Advisable




With the death of the spouse, most surviving partners, receive what is know as a suivivorship monthly pension. So that if a widow/er decides to marry again, this benefit gets cancelled or revoked. Since the received assistance is considered an added monthly income, marriage with the new partner is most unlikely, especially when the couple concerned is in their senior years. A live-in arrangement is better espoused, under the circumstance.

I find this situation not attuned to what I consider a moral obligation, especially on the part of the man, who will assuime, his patriarch role in the family. Besides, marriage will make it binding for any of the partner to be recognized as a legitimate spouse, under any legal parlance.

In Canada, this may not pose a problem because a live-in arrangement for 6 months undergone by a couple is recognized by its government, as legitimate. How about where you are? If you are a widower or a widow, would you be willing to give-up your survivorship benefit, just so you could marry your lover-partner?



fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
7/26/2021 9:27 pm

Truth of the matter there, I will opt for marriage, whether one is senior or not. I believe a couple who gets married is always blessed. To heck with the survivorship benefit then.


easycome42 81M
34 posts
7/26/2021 11:07 pm

My opinion is, "Whatever works?". But, personally I do not have any desire losing that survivor benefit. It is what it is in every sense of the word. At my age, rejoining the work force is not an option. I do not know what the future holds, so am gonna keep it and just simply shack up.


godiva0824 63F
3469 posts
7/27/2021 1:10 pm

    Quoting fantasiamore2:
    Truth of the matter there, I will opt for marriage, whether one is senior or not. I believe a couple who gets married is always blessed. To heck with the survivorship benefit then.
It may not be the option of others specially Women. My kumare who receives quite a sumptuous pension from a demised husband who worked in the US army for a long time. She is still in her mid 40's (she is 30 years younger my kumpare when they got married). Now, with 2 kids (13 and 10) she's just starting to enjoy her life. I am sure, without the pension, she would opt to re-marry again..This time, not for convenience. She resides back in the Philippines now...

ELZ


godiva0824 63F
3469 posts
7/27/2021 1:12 pm

    Quoting easycome42:
    My opinion is, "Whatever works?". But, personally I do not have any desire losing that survivor benefit. It is what it is in every sense of the word. At my age, rejoining the work force is not an option. I do not know what the future holds, so am gonna keep it and just simply shack up.
I would do the same. Marriage nowadays is no longer binding as it used to be...What matters is that 2 people are in love, and are good companion to one another.

ELZ


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
7/27/2021 7:23 pm

    Quoting easycome42:
    My opinion is, "Whatever works?". But, personally I do not have any desire losing that survivor benefit. It is what it is in every sense of the word. At my age, rejoining the work force is not an option. I do not know what the future holds, so am gonna keep it and just simply shack up.
[size1] Your opinion on the matter is a general consensus meaning many will do what you will do, whether you're younger or whether you are a woman. The implication is not simple, because money is hard earned and not easy to find as well. Tis a great assistance to lose, when you could be already enjoying it. There will always be a circumvention, for two people in love.


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
7/27/2021 7:28 pm

    Quoting godiva0824:
    I would do the same. Marriage nowadays is no longer binding as it used to be...What matters is that 2 people are in love, and are good companion to one another.
A long-term relationship is already a commitment between two persons in love. Like most will say marriage is just a piece of paper, what matters is more the vow in action not in paper. That there is what is called till death do us part, without going through a marriage.


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
7/27/2021 7:35 pm

    Quoting godiva0824:
    It may not be the option of others specially Women. My kumare who receives quite a sumptuous pension from a demised husband who worked in the US army for a long time. She is still in her mid 40's (she is 30 years younger my kumpare when they got married). Now, with 2 kids (13 and 10) she's just starting to enjoy her life. I am sure, without the pension, she would opt to re-marry again..This time, not for convenience. She resides back in the Philippines now...
Unless life will prove for the better without that survivorship pension, then a second thought on marriage would probably linger. But as it is, any aditional money to spend especially for the household is a significant benefit. I can understant why marriage would not be advisable in having a relationship after death of a spouse. But if one puts it in the right perspective, why enjoy something that is not truly yours or intended differently? Just my MOHO here.


chester0310 34M
199 posts
8/8/2021 4:38 am

    Quoting fantasiamore2:
    Truth of the matter there, I will opt for marriage, whether one is senior or not. I believe a couple who gets married is always blessed. To heck with the survivorship benefit then.
To receive a survivor's benefit, either of the spouses should at least work for 10 years and pay tax on a regular basis. My grandmother only received one month's benefit when his husband died this year. My grandfather never had a job here in Toronto because when they came in 1995, he was already retired. But I remember my mom giving him money after he babysat me because that's what my grandma told him. And my three cousins' parents also paid him until they finished grade six.

Once in a while, someone comes along to put you on top of the world.


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
8/8/2021 7:10 pm

    Quoting chester0310:
    To receive a survivor's benefit, either of the spouses should at least work for 10 years and pay tax on a regular basis. My grandmother only received one month's benefit when his husband died this year. My grandfather never had a job here in Toronto because when they came in 1995, he was already retired. But I remember my mom giving him money after he babysat me because that's what my grandma told him. And my three cousins' parents also paid him until they finished grade six.
lucky that youe grandpa can still find work and earn money from the inside of the house..although some opt to continue working beyond reitrement i would say most would find it better for theiir mental and physical well being continuing to do so, not only because of the money..besides, doing this will make them still busy until that time that they feel already incapable..now for most, retirement ushers in a feeling of grandeur in that they can now enjoy waking up late, not being pressured to do things and can do as much as they would like leisurely, after working their butts for so many years...