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fantasiamore2 72F
860 posts
12/29/2020 7:52 am
YOUR REACTION



I encountered this silly question, but because somehow the "now" genre seems to have forgotten the simple rudiments of what and how respect is done, lemme throw and open somehow a discussion on the question raised as:

If "respect" is to be earned, why do we respect elders, when all they did was get older?


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
12/29/2020 7:53 am

your comments please....thanks!


godiva0824 63F
3469 posts
12/30/2020 7:27 am

For us, Filipinos, it is a "culture" that has been passed on, and it worked very well, until the "liberation" of minds and politicizing of "rights", including that of children's.For me, I respect elders not only because of their old age, but because of the lessons they share, that they, themselves,have learned from the different experiences that they've encountered throughout their lifetime. Those lessons guide us as we go along our own lives, and most of the time, they are right.

ELZ


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
12/30/2020 9:40 am

    Quoting godiva0824:
    For us, Filipinos, it is a "culture" that has been passed on, and it worked very well, until the "liberation" of minds and politicizing of "rights", including that of children's.For me, I respect elders not only because of their old age, but because of the lessons they share, that they, themselves,have learned from the different experiences that they've encountered throughout their lifetime. Those lessons guide us as we go along our own lives, and most of the time, they are right.
So true as Filipinos we are culturally bound to respect the elders as passed on and inherited from our Spanish forefathers. The traditional "mano po," (kissing of the elders' hand, during family visits and meeting them anywhere) is a typical manifestation of that respect we uphold..it is only as of late that this was replaced by bussing or kissing of the cheeks, or giving a 'high five" by the younger generations to the elder, which to me has been adapted from westerners and his like..

corollary to what you said the young's purportedly innocence or ignorance as compared to the elder's gained knowledge and experience in life is enough credence to believe that respect is always due in any manner to the elderly..they tend to know more and capable of passing better technical and factual knowledge and truths about life, recognizable at any point in time...


godiva0824 63F
3469 posts
12/30/2020 5:12 pm

    Quoting fantasiamore2:
    So true as Filipinos we are culturally bound to respect the elders as passed on and inherited from our Spanish forefathers. The traditional "mano po," (kissing of the elders' hand, during family visits and meeting them anywhere) is a typical manifestation of that respect we uphold..it is only as of late that this was replaced by bussing or kissing of the cheeks, or giving a 'high five" by the younger generations to the elder, which to me has been adapted from westerners and his like..

    corollary to what you said the young's purportedly innocence or ignorance as compared to the elder's gained knowledge and experience in life is enough credence to believe that respect is always due in any manner to the elderly..they tend to know more and capable of passing better technical and factual knowledge and truths about life, recognizable at any point in time...
And I really abhor the idea of youngsters now talk back to their parents or grandparents as if, no one taught them GMRC (or who knows? maybe so). To me, it is still okay to reason out, but still being respectful.

ELZ


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
12/31/2020 4:32 am

    Quoting godiva0824:
    And I really abhor the idea of youngsters now talk back to their parents or grandparents as if, no one taught them GMRC (or who knows? maybe so). To me, it is still okay to reason out, but still being respectful.
this i have seen prevalent here in Canada..they are alllowed to talk back because parents tolerate their kind of reasoning, but not necessarily without discipline when the reasoning is not acceptable and wrong viz-a-viz moral standards..


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
1/6/2021 9:09 am

    Quoting  :

even here in Canada, the olds of indigenous tribes are called elders, who are the respected and respectable authority within the tribe and its covered area..


BichonFrise 30M
34 posts
1/14/2021 7:03 pm

    Quoting fantasiamore2:
    this i have seen prevalent here in Canada..they are alllowed to talk back because parents tolerate their kind of reasoning, but not necessarily without discipline when the reasoning is not acceptable and wrong viz-a-viz moral standards..
One of my male cousins whose mum is from the Philippines sometimes argue with my aunt and I always hear him say that no one is allowed to abuse a child, an elder or an animal whether physically, verbally, emotionally. I can see the struggle of millennials and their parents in terms of discipline, goal and empathy. I can say I am in between hoping to learn more on compassion.


fantasiamore2 72F
876 posts
1/16/2021 7:13 am

    Quoting BichonFrise:
    One of my male cousins whose mum is from the Philippines sometimes argue with my aunt and I always hear him say that no one is allowed to abuse a child, an elder or an animal whether physically, verbally, emotionally. I can see the struggle of millennials and their parents in terms of discipline, goal and empathy. I can say I am in between hoping to learn more on compassion.
i can say even if respect for elders is not part of the family's tradition, culture or discipline, the fact that one feels or has compassion is enough indication to automatically recognize respecting the elders..they are people who need help due to incapacity, disability or any impairment, that we should respect first and foremost..even if no need like this is present, the fact that they are more knowledgeable or learned and more experienced, this is at least grounds for us to respect them...