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Bizzysback 63F
1032 posts
1/27/2014 3:49 pm
Making Babies



Did the title catch your attention? Yes that’s right I am discussing making babies here since it has been a topic lately in the chat room and the blog land. It’s not the conventional way that we know, no rated R here. I am talking about the technical, assisted reproduction, test tube babies, in vitro fertilization or whatever you want to call it. This process involves more than the couple and involves many professionals. Like I mentioned in one of my posts I have worked in a fertility clinic in NZ for over 5 years so I have a bit of an experience in making babies this way.

First of all for the women; yes you can get pregnant even without a man in your life, that’s one advantage we have over the men because men can never get pregnant by themselves. Technology is amazing and scary specially if put in the wrong hands or people. It will not be impossible that men will be making babies for commercial purpose like an organ factory. Sounds impossible? Not at all based on what I have seen. Have you heard about a couple who made their own pregnant by inseminating her with her own father’s sperm? No sexual contact, it was the mother who did it to her own using her little knowledge in the process. Sick? yes I call that sick. Have you heard about a couple who had another baby so that the baby cord blood could be a donor to the sibling who has leukemia? Anyway that’s another topic.

Well going back on the track, if you want to get pregnant by assisted reproduction there are several requirements and several options. First you have to have money. In NZ it cost about NZ$15K excluding fare and accommodation. In Philippines it’s cheaper can cost about PHP100K to 200K per attempt and the service is better, in the hospital that is.

Second there is age requirement, ideally you have a higher success rate if you are less than forty. Pregnancy is also more high risks of complications if you are older. The oldest woman who got pregnant by IVF is 59. Third you have to be in good health, if not, you can also have a surrogate, meaning another woman can carry your baby in their womb. I heard this is a common practice in India. The oldest living human being from IVF in NZ is now over 50 years of age. No it’s not me I was born in Phil.

The process:
The first step is a screening to find what is the problem and what is suitable. If everything else failed then you may opt for In vitro fertilization. The woman will be given medications for several days to produce more mature eggs. We normally produce only one mature egg each month but with medication they can ripen more than one. When the eggs mature they will be collected surgically. Lots of ouch here. The eggs collected can be from zero to forty, on the average 5 to 8 in my experience. The more eggs the higher the risks. Not all of these eggs will get fertilized and if they do you don’t want to have them all at the same time. You can have them frozen until such time that you are ready to get pregnant again. There is one ethical question here, if you already have babies and you don't want to have anymore, what will you do with your frozen embryos? Remember these are living embryos just frozen, ready to become a new human being.

For the men they get the easy job, they go in the collection room to do their part. Easy job I say but still others cannot do it. Some man plays hard to get so it has to be done by force. They have to undergo surgical sperm retrieval, we call it getting the sperm straight from the factory. Such is the case for those who had vasectomy or other problem. Once we have the sperm the best ones are selected and then inoculated to the egg, all done under the microscope by the watchful eye of the scientist. If an embryo develops it will be transferred to the uterus after 3 to 5 days and there it is you have an embryo in the womb so you are pregnant. Now being pregnant is another topic.

Sound simple and easy? Maybe not? In writing it is. There’s more to it but I don’t want to bore you.

The real test is not about having babies it is about becoming a good parent. Having babies is a choice whereas being a parent is a responsibility. A friend of mine said anyone can be a parent and I said yes that’s true. Anyone can be a parent but not everyone is suitable to be one or is willing to be one. If even just a quarter of population are suitable AND willing to become parent, then there will be no need for orphanage. Will you consider adopting? I will, that's one of my plans.


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zb1020 66F
102 posts
1/27/2014 7:18 pm

when u come to think of it, a FAMILY doesn‘t necessarily mean a father and a mother..
parenting is entirely a different matter from making babies..


Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
1/27/2014 10:52 pm

    Quoting  :

Kaye You only need one sperm for one egg to develop into an embryo this union can later develop into twins or more. If you are thinking of different sperm for each egg yes it is possible. You can have multi coloured and multi racial offsprings yes it is possible.

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Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
1/27/2014 10:57 pm

    Quoting Dessiree:
    A woman can have a child without having a man in her life but cannot have a FAMILY on her own.

    And a child needs a FAMILY, not a single parent who decided to purposely raise the kid on her own. The child will always look for a male figure because that's the way it was ordained by the Lord. Things usually go wrong when we humans tinker with God's design and modify it out of sheer willfulness and, usually, selfishness.

    We have been created with that built in need to be in a family and grow as balanced human beings in a loving, well-balanced, and supportive family environment
Desiree my daughter has a child because she was played by a player she got pregnant but we did not go for abortion because we believe that is God's gift. She and my granddaughter has a family, us. What about those who were victims of . What about same sex marriage do you not consider them family?

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Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
1/27/2014 10:58 pm

    Quoting  :

ok done, try again if you like.

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Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
1/27/2014 10:59 pm

    Quoting zb1020:
    when u come to think of it, a FAMILY doesn‘t necessarily mean a father and a mother..
    parenting is entirely a different matter from making babies..
Very well said ZB.

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Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
1/28/2014 1:13 pm

    Quoting  :

Ta Jane I guess we are all blessed in different ways. Thanks for sharing.

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Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
1/28/2014 5:33 pm

    Quoting  :

Kaye, you can only say your fertile if you get pregnant if you don't get pregnant after several attempts to be pregnant then you are infertile. We can't tell them by the eggs. One indication but not a certainty that you are fertile and is therefore can get pregnant is if you get regular monthly period. A regular period can be anywhere from every 21 days or more. Studies also show that if you get premenstrual pain or symptoms or even period pains you are likely to be having true ovulation so are therefore fertile. You will have to visit an Ob - Gynae sooner or later like for a regular paps smear, so don't be embarassed.

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Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
1/28/2014 5:36 pm

    Quoting jorg_ge2:
    Kaye!!

    Is it possible? Having a brown skinned right hand and a fair skinned left hand baby?
Jorge yes, if the child has vitiligo of one hand.

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Bizzysback 63F
990 posts
3/3/2014 6:16 pm

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Paula there are better and easier ways but firstly you have to think very deeply what is the purpose of having a baby? I certainly hope not just your personal desire. I highly recommend adoption.

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