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eb1209
23211 posts
6/21/2007 1:56 pm
MAY-DECEMBER LOVE AFFAIR & DOUBLE STANDARDS


I'm sure this has been discussed too many times before, but nevertheless, it will still cause a stir to people who are liberal, skeptical, practical, in denial, or even those who don't care at all. Time, virtues and personal values have changed.

I've got several questions for men and women whose opinions I'll dearly value regarding these issues:

1. Do you think it's about time the "social stigma" regarding May-December Love Affair be lifted?

2. Is there really such a big difference if the man is a lot older than a woman, than the other way around, as far as being socially accepted?

3. Just because the man is way too young, does this necessarily mean that he is not fit, or immature to become a partner of an older woman?

4. Is it really okay for young women to marry older men and not have by them, but it's a problem for older women to marry young men, and not bear for them anymore?

5. Does it really mean that whoever is the younger person, s/he benefits more financially, emotionally, and material security from the older partner? And for that matter or reason, s/he will marry him/her?

6. In this time and generation, where divorce, separation, and annullment happen at all ages and all situations, is it more beneficial to be in a May-December Love Affair then?

7. What attracts young women to older men? And what attracts young men to older women? Other than the above mentioned, are we missing something here?

Okay people, post your valuable ideas here!...THANK YOU!

Just call me ELZ


SeNsE_of_HoNeY 49F
4829 posts
6/21/2007 5:45 pm

attraction << most times for security & benefits & stature..

death comes at any age so i don't know if the younger person has an edge over the older one..

bcoz of the advances in science, there are more chances of bearing a child, & theres always adoption as an option..

most people nowadays do not care much about what society accepts or not as long as they are happy with each other & May-Dec unions are more common than we think & only evoke curiosity not disdain..

... the opinions expressed are my own personal opinions


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:06 pm

    Quoting SeNsE_of_HoNeY:
    attraction << most times for security & benefits & stature..

    death comes at any age so i don't know if the younger person has an edge over the older one..

    bcoz of the advances in science, there are more chances of bearing a child, & theres always adoption as an option..

    most people nowadays do not care much about what society accepts or not as long as they are happy with each other & May-Dec unions are more common than we think & only evoke curiosity not disdain..

    ... the opinions expressed are my own personal opinions
Thanks Hon, pinalalakas mo yata ang loob ko ah!...Actually, what's happening is that most of my admirers are averaging 10 years younger than I am, and at first, I just could not help but doubt the motives, specially if the men are coming from countries other than where I am right now. But, the same is true in real place and real time here..Even my EX-BF from New York City with whom I had the most wonderful and loving romantic experiences was 6 years my junior, and he treated me like a baby and a princess...Whereas my son's father was 8 years older than I am, and I was the one who actually "ran" most of our lives together. Those were the contrasting (and by the way, the only 2 major relationships I've ever had in my entire life) experiences I've had with men.

Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:12 pm

Hello there Mr. late_bloomer!..Wow! that's some kinda input you have here...very interesting! And you actually took some time to answer all the questions...I'm sure, the readers agree to some or most of them...Well said, and many thanks for your opinions...

Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:19 pm

And by the way, the title of this blog says: MAY-DECEMBER LOVE AFFAIR & DOUBLE STANDARDS. The following posts are added on.

Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:20 pm

Top 10: Dating Double Standards
In the dating world, it is not very difficult to generate controversial topics of conversation, which, if discussed with the opposite sex, often end in disagreements. The behaviors and practices that have become ingrained in dating etiquette often lead to double standards between men and women.

Actions that are acceptable for guys are frowned upon if women act that way, and vice versa. This phenomenon is subject to much study but, for now, let's take a look at some of the most blatant double standards in the ever-complex world of dating.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:22 pm

Number 10

Breaking up

"Men are jerks, women are victims"

One of the hardest positions a man can be in is when he's involved in a relationship that is about to end. Whether he's dissatisfied with his woman or is about to get blindsided with bad news, there is little doubt he's stuck. Why? Because, for some reason, our society seems to dictate that no matter what happens, the man can never walk away smelling like roses. If she ends the relationship, it's because he's a jerk, and if he ends it, it's because he's a jerk. Talk about being wedged between a rock and a hard place...


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:24 pm

Number 9

"Men ask and pay, women accept and smile"

Double standards are not only reserved for big, important issues in a relationship; smaller but still relevant topics are subject to society's skewed view as well. Take the example of a man and a woman on a date at a restaurant. If the man gathered up enough courage to ask her out, he is expected to pay for the meal because he initiated the night out. This practice is common nowadays and, unfortunately, goes on with little dispute.

In the rare case that the woman made the first move and asked for a night out, the man is still expected to pay because, simply, it's the right thing to do. It is ingrained in our minds that to be gentlemanly means, among other things, to put down the cash on a date.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:26 pm

Number 8

"Men are controlled by libido, women are neglected"

Another sticky situation arises when you or your girlfriend gets mixed up with another mate. For whatever reason, one of you made the regrettable mistake of hooking up with someone for a night of passion. Now, from the outside looking in, here's what generally goes down:

If she cheats, the perception is that you have not been pulling your weight (i.e. he's no good in bed, he's insensitive, etc.). Somewhere along the way, you slipped up, leaving her no other choice but to look somewhere else for satisfaction. As unfair as this seems, it is true.

If you cheat, it is attributed to an unquenchable need to please your libido. It's as if being faithful is a feat in and of itself. Again, the blame is inexplicably diverted away from the woman, leaving the man open for much criticism.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:29 pm

Number 7

"Men will cheat, women have control"

Complications usually arise when you or your woman has friends of the opposite sex. A woman may justify her friendships with a couple of guys by saying she is always in total control of her emotions and is able to separate "boyfriend" from "boy friend." Conflicts of interest are hardly ever brought up for the fairer sex because of the supposed control they have.

Of course, when the shoe's on the other foot, things can get messy. A man who has close female friends is usually accused of several dishonorable things. He gets accused of keeping this friend for times of loneliness (i.e. in case of increased libido). Even if he doesn't have deep feelings for this friend, his girlfriend may make the point that, in a moment of weakness, he may fall prey to animal instinct. This is yet another situation where men do not get the benefit of the doubt.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:30 pm

Number 6

"Men are players, women are being "nice" "

Flirting can be a really entertaining way of procuring a phone number or the name of a pretty woman across the way. Done right, this little game demonstrates that you're a smooth, debonair guy. In most situations, however, men who flirt with a few women at a nightclub or even in the office are seen as having intentions that go beyond being friendly. Eventually, many people would say, the man wants to get into that lady's pants. The generalization is made that the man who flirts undoubtedly has a hidden agenda.

Women who react to a man's advances or who start conversations and innocently tease men are not viewed in the same light. In fact, most of the time, a woman would defend herself by saying that she was "simply being nice" to the guy next to her at the bar. Often, it is men who are viewed as having ulterior motives.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:32 pm

Number 5

"Men interrogate, women are concerned"

Men can get into so much trouble, even if what they do comes via good intentions. After your woman comes home from a long day at work, is it not proper to ask how her day went? I thought so too, but after those questions were met with snarky replies that I was simply digging for dirt, I was more confused about the opposite sex than ever. A simple attempt to get a peek into a loved one's day can be met with attitude, because the impression is that men are always interrogating, making sure their women stay "on track."

The situation is not as rosy if you don't ask for details either. Instead of coming off as jealous, you'll seem indifferent about your woman. Any way you look at it, there is no easy way out, gentlemen.

But women, oh, when women ask about where you went, how many beers you had, or why you didn't call, they're just being inquisitive because they "care." Uh-huh.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:33 pm

Number 4

"Men are whipped, women are clingy"

Peaceful, relaxing nights alone with your honey strengthens the bond between you and allows you to enjoy each other's company without outside distractions. However, the need to spend time together alone brings some societal pressures as well. If your girlfriend bugs you to spend more of your hours with her, she can come off as clingy -- a big turnoff. Unfortunately, many of us are too quick to hand down this judgment when she could simply, in fact, miss you.

The last thing a man wants to do is get caught doing the same thing: no guy likes being called "p-whipped." It insults our manhood to know that our friends see us as controlled by a woman, but it is a stereotype many, unfortunately, lay down.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:34 pm

Number 3

"Men are glorified, women are ostracized"

In a relationship that is not exclusive (i.e. one where both sides have agreed to date other people as well), people are not afraid to cast judgment on both sexes. The guy who's simultaneously dating multiple women is praised and thought of as "da man" or "a pimp." He's simply doing his job; playing the game and gaining many lady friends out of it.

The same accolades are not reserved for women who have ties to a few different men. In fact, the response is the polar opposite. She can be called the most degrading names in the book, as she is being promiscuous and "easy." These accusations are certainly not uncommon, even in today's lax dating circles.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:37 pm

Number 2

"Men are chivalrous, women are catty or aggressive"

Contrary to what you may think, chivalry is not always a flattering attribute. You are only rewarded for your heroic acts in certain situations. For instance, if a man at the next table refuses to keep his voice down or doesn't stop smoking even though it's a smoke-free restaurant, you should get the green light to stand up for your woman's right to enjoy the night and say something. Resolving this conflict and others that affect her time with you will net you big points.

But if the waitress is flirting with you, or your woman verbally chews someone out, then she's considered aggressive or abrasive. Unfortunately, we still deem women soft, for lack of a better word, and the moment they stand up for themselves and become argumentative with men or women, their femininity goes out the window.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:39 pm

And Number 1

"Men are dysfunctional, women need better lovers"

Perhaps the ultimate examples of strict double standards are seen when issues of sex are brought up. When things are going well in bed, nothing in the world will bother you. However, it is the times when your sexual chemistries don't jive that problems will arise.

If a man is struggling with his orgasm, it's an embarrassing problem that he is unlikely to admit without some prodding. His girlfriend may be quick to assume he has erectile dysfunction, though there a slew of mental issues to blame for his inability to perform.

When it is the woman who can't reach her climax, no assumptions are made that she may have some problems to deal with. Often, the finger is pointed at the man: he has no skills in bed and has failed to excite his woman enough. Will anyone ever cut us some slack?


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:42 pm

"Dating ain't easy"

With these prevalent double standards, dating has become somewhat of a tough road to navigate. We must keep these conflicting rules in mind before any move is made, reflecting on the potential consequences and the woman's likely response. Whether dealing with the bill at a restaurant or having platonic female friends, society has influenced both you and your woman, so be wary.


Just call me ELZ


eb1209

6/21/2007 7:43 pm

Are we having enough yet?...Hehehehehe!

Just call me ELZ


SeNsE_of_HoNeY 49F
4829 posts
6/22/2007 5:52 am

wowoweeeeeee .. elz, i don't bother myself w/ all that, if i have good vibes w/ the guy & he is decent & honorable, the rest is negotiable society can f_ck themselves for all i care.. ooooppsss

hey bloom, u are one funny shapely round guy glad u are coming out of that dark corner


eb1209

6/22/2007 6:04 pm

    Quoting SeNsE_of_HoNeY:
    wowoweeeeeee .. elz, i don't bother myself w/ all that, if i have good vibes w/ the guy & he is decent & honorable, the rest is negotiable society can f_ck themselves for all i care.. ooooppsss

    hey bloom, u are one funny shapely round guy glad u are coming out of that dark corner
Hehehehe! Now, that's more like the Honey I really like...so outspoken....No fears!...We both like this freedom to express what we want, when we want and how we want it....The thing is, not too many people like to read nor be aware of what's really going on in our world right now, specially when it comes to relationships...Hala bira na lang talaga, and I'm sure, you and I are not in that category, right?

Just call me ELZ


cjinsea 65M

6/26/2007 8:34 am

Age and Love are very compatible.Age is a number on a calender love is an emotion felt by young and old alike.NO DIFFERENCE and Here in the USA more and more mature women are seen with much younger men just as older men have been attracted to younger women (as long as its legally acceptable)for generations.The days of Love between two "like" individuals be it age or whatever is LONG gone..at least on its way out here.When cupid draws back its bow..its arrow knows no age.
CJ


eb1209

6/26/2007 11:01 am

You wowed me there with your honest to goodness post CJ!...And if you don't mind, I'd love to post this in our group discussion, the PLF, with all credits to you...This will serve as an inspiration to most who are in this predicament (or shall I say, love situation? )

Just call me ELZ


cjinsea 65M

6/26/2007 2:14 pm

Give kudos to cupid but as for my bringing cupids mission to my friends ..ok.I have a hard time understanding that any love situation can be a "predicament"unless there is a unwilling participant(love child).Thanks to you for opening my thoughts on this.I haven't talked about this subject..wow ..YEARS.
CJ


eb1209

6/26/2007 2:23 pm

I'm glad I did something significant to you...Laters...and thanks..

Just call me ELZ