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Vindictive Love....  

eb1209
10/21/2009 6:17 am


When one experiences hurt, sometimes s/he has no ability to cope with it. There is a tendency to be spiteful, to take revenge, to purposely hurt back, to be resentful. But the sad part of it is that the desire to avenge from that painful experience is to hurt the "innocent", someone who is not directly involved with whatever ill feelings one is experiencing. In short, someone's got to be punished, somehow.. Is this fair?...Who cares? Someone's got to pay! No matter how much it'll cost that person...

I've heard tons of stories of women (mostly) who were wooed by men, and once they're swept off their feet in "love", the same men just "leave", with lots of alibis or without notice...Can you relate to this?

I've been enveloped with the fear of experiencing the same, so much so that I created a "wall" to protect myself from this misfortune. I was pretty close to ending up with it a couple of times in different situations (or so, I thought). But it is said that the walls we build around us to protect us from being sad and hurt, are the same walls that prevent us from experiencing the joys..And I guess, that is also true..

I was advised many times NOT to be too analytical. " Feelings are not supposed to be logical. Dangerous is the wo/man who keeps rationalizing his/her emotions. "

It is said that " All Is Fair In Love and War "...Let's not be vindictive..


coolwater2008
162 posts 

10/21/2009 7:03 am

always be fair enuf,,,take no revenge or someday what youve thrown at will get back at you,,love by all means,,

"moving minds tru moving world"

Yanie26w
2092 posts 

10/21/2009 7:43 am

I think it's only natural to be afraid when you've been hurt before.
Just try and remember that just because something happened before doesn't necessarily mean it WILL happen again.
It's Ok to be alert,aware,and somewhat guarded,but still take that risk of finding true happiness...


Gud gurlz R bad gurlz who dnt get caught... Yanie24w

jean_1000
389 posts 

10/21/2009 8:39 am

never try to hurt the innocent ...they just like a child... and don't fight for LOVE it has to be free....

im_stacy
1737 posts 

10/21/2009 8:41 am

The lessons learned from pain & hurt may be the hardest but they are probably the most important ones because it builds character.
If someone hurts you, betrays you or breaks your heart, forgive them, for they have helped you learn about trust and the importance of being cautious to who you open your heart to.
One way to get over pain is to keep oneself busy doing right and feeling good about it knowing that it's the best thing to do, rather than being busy doing (or even thinking) wrong.

When I low my friends et al give me energy.

smiley1957
3018 posts 

10/21/2009 9:28 am

"what goes around...comes around"

so don't worry

give ur best shot...always
if u fail and get hurt?

get even !

kidding!

seriously...pain is a vitamin
without it...u will never be stronger
so i promised myself...
i'd rather feel PAIN than...
nothing at all

"kahit masakit ...kaya natin ito!!! "



i'm like a bird!

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 9:35 am

    Quoting coolwater2008:
    always be fair enuf,,,take no revenge or someday what youve thrown at will get back at you,,love by all means,,
Jhon (I hope I got ur name right)...I hope everyone thinks that way...really...but there are those who FEELS happy seeing others get hurt..

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 9:40 am

    Quoting Yanie26w:
    I think it's only natural to be afraid when you've been hurt before.
    Just try and remember that just because something happened before doesn't necessarily mean it WILL happen again.
    It's Ok to be alert,aware,and somewhat guarded,but still take that risk of finding true happiness...

Yanie, my dear...I do know that falling in love can be "emotionally" costly (to others, it can be a pain in the pockets too ), and depending on how much we risk each time, is also the higher possibility of being happy in the end, or else, there can only be a downward trend...

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 9:41 am

    Quoting jean_1000:
    never try to hurt the innocent ...they just like a child... and don't fight for LOVE it has to be free....
Right, Jeanny...Why hurt the innocent? What did they do or don't do to make them suffer?

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 9:47 am

    Quoting im_stacy:
    The lessons learned from pain & hurt may be the hardest but they are probably the most important ones because it builds character.
    If someone hurts you, betrays you or breaks your heart, forgive them, for they have helped you learn about trust and the importance of being cautious to who you open your heart to.
    One way to get over pain is to keep oneself busy doing right and feeling good about it knowing that it's the best thing to do, rather than being busy doing (or even thinking) wrong.
Well said, Stacy.....For me, being hurt doesn't mean hating the person..For what? the act of hating will deprive me of being happy. I sure will NOT give any man the satisfaction of seeing/knowing that I am hurt, hateful, and feeling down just because he had wronged me...No! On the contrary, I will even be thankful that things ended the way they did because I deserve something or someone a lot better...Besides, there is no room for hatred in my heart...It'll make me look older than my age...

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 9:52 am

    Quoting smiley1957:
    "what goes around...comes around"

    so don't worry

    give ur best shot...always
    if u fail and get hurt?

    get even !

    kidding!

    seriously...pain is a vitamin
    without it...u will never be stronger
    so i promised myself...
    i'd rather feel PAIN than...
    nothing at all

    "kahit masakit ...kaya natin ito!!! "


Smiley......Nagiging sadista or masochista na nga tau eh...Sobrang pagtitiis and paghihintay on my part...Grabe! But I won't ever get even...In the end, tayo pa rin ang talo..kasi if we get so emotionally affected, we will be consumed...The end result? WRINKLES... I don't want them...Shu!

amabella
784 posts 

10/21/2009 12:39 pm

another beautiful sharing of thought from you Elz..
true love never ever can be vindictive, it shouldn't be..
if it is/was, then i think something went wrong somewhere..
Personally, I would still want to wish happiness to whoever became close to my heart, even if how we parted ways wasn't nice.
To finally learn to let go, without bitterness in one's heart, is the best step to take..
its ok to guard your heart Elz, but i hope not too much that you wouldn't want to take a chance in loving again..
wishing you will find that elusive love...soon.


eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 1:16 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Jhon (I hope I got ur name right)...I hope everyone thinks that way...really...but there are those who FEELS happy seeing others get hurt..
Those who FEEL, I meant..

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 1:20 pm

    Quoting amabella:
    another beautiful sharing of thought from you Elz..
    true love never ever can be vindictive, it shouldn't be..
    if it is/was, then i think something went wrong somewhere..
    Personally, I would still want to wish happiness to whoever became close to my heart, even if how we parted ways wasn't nice.
    To finally learn to let go, without bitterness in one's heart, is the best step to take..
    its ok to guard your heart Elz, but i hope not too much that you wouldn't want to take a chance in loving again..
    wishing you will find that elusive love...soon.

May I share with you a secret, Joyce?..Actually, there was/is (make a wild guess) this special feeling that I hold or reserve in my heart, but it is very unique in a way that I wasn't/isn't expecting anything in return...Probably that's love?..NOT that kind of love I felt strongly long time ago...But my heart is very capable of loving...truly..

cali4nio
63 posts

10/21/2009 1:51 pm

Uuyy uuyyy Hmmmm do I hear Elz singing
Remember those walls I built
Well, baby they're tumbling down
And they didn't even put up a fight
They didn't even make up a sound

I found a way to let you in
But I never really had a doubt
Standing in the light of your halo
I got my angel now

Vindictive love bring it on, eye 4 an eye baby

Well just a word of advice to all you sistahs out there specially the ones that seems to be caught up in the vicious cycle of being swept of your feet and then at the end find yourself being dropped like a ton of bricks or drowing in sorrows. Putting up a wall temporarily may not be a bad idea while you asses where you are in life.

Walls will keep things out but will also limited your horizon. And so true that feelings are not supposed to be logical, specially when it comes to considering a partner. So if you are being to analytical about a person or the type of relationship you will have then you really are not into him/her the first place. As we all know love has no logic!

If loving you is wrong...
I don't want to be right
If being right means living without you
I'd rather live wrong than right

amabella
784 posts 

10/21/2009 2:29 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    May I share with you a secret, Joyce?..Actually, there was/is (make a wild guess) this special feeling that I hold or reserve in my heart, but it is very unique in a way that I wasn't/isn't expecting anything in return...Probably that's love?..NOT that kind of love I felt strongly long time ago...But my heart is very capable of loving...truly..
May i share with you a feeling too Elz...
i think I know what you mean, or WHO...
and I think thats ok to have...
who knows.....you and that person might be surprised one time...
God works in wonderful, mysterious ways, that much i have learned...


eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 4:25 pm

    Quoting cali4nio:
    Uuyy uuyyy Hmmmm do I hear Elz singing
    Remember those walls I built
    Well, baby they're tumbling down
    And they didn't even put up a fight
    They didn't even make up a sound

    I found a way to let you in
    But I never really had a doubt
    Standing in the light of your halo
    I got my angel now

    Vindictive love bring it on, eye 4 an eye baby

    Well just a word of advice to all you sistahs out there specially the ones that seems to be caught up in the vicious cycle of being swept of your feet and then at the end find yourself being dropped like a ton of bricks or drowing in sorrows. Putting up a wall temporarily may not be a bad idea while you asses where you are in life.

    Walls will keep things out but will also limited your horizon. And so true that feelings are not supposed to be logical, specially when it comes to considering a partner. So if you are being to analytical about a person or the type of relationship you will have then you really are not into him/her the first place. As we all know love has no logic!

    If loving you is wrong...
    I don't want to be right
    If being right means living without you
    I'd rather live wrong than right

Hey! Mr. Cali..What happened to you? We were expecting you at the SFO EB...But anyways, I believe Marivic had chatted with you re: the outcome...Thanks for your very important points of view...Take care!

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 4:27 pm

    Quoting amabella:
    May i share with you a feeling too Elz...
    i think I know what you mean, or WHO...
    and I think thats ok to have...
    who knows.....you and that person might be surprised one time...
    God works in wonderful, mysterious ways, that much i have learned...

Hahahahaha! ..I knew this was coming Joyce...But all I can say is HAYZ!

cali4nio
63 posts

10/21/2009 5:15 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Hey! Mr. Cali..What happened to you? We were expecting you at the SFO EB...But anyways, I believe Marivic had chatted with you re: the outcome...Thanks for your very important points of view...Take care!
, I did show up .... Yes Marivic filled me in and I'm glad you all had a great time. Take care

jean_1000
389 posts 

10/21/2009 5:43 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Hey! Mr. Cali..What happened to you? We were expecting you at the SFO EB...But anyways, I believe Marivic had chatted with you re: the outcome...Thanks for your very important points of view...Take care!
he was there elz but too bad ROBERTO'S is close... too bad we don't wait a little more... he could join the fun with us...

jean_1000
389 posts 

10/21/2009 5:45 pm

    Quoting smiley1957:
    "what goes around...comes around"

    so don't worry

    give ur best shot...always
    if u fail and get hurt?

    get even !

    kidding!

    seriously...pain is a vitamin
    without it...u will never be stronger
    so i promised myself...
    i'd rather feel PAIN than...
    nothing at all

    "kahit masakit ...kaya natin ito!!! "


masakit is masarap awwwwwwwwwcthhhhh

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 6:10 pm

    Quoting jean_1000:
    he was there elz but too bad ROBERTO'S is close... too bad we don't wait a little more... he could join the fun with us...
Kung hindi nauukol...Hindi bubukol!

eb1209
12136 posts

10/21/2009 6:11 pm

    Quoting jean_1000:
    masakit is masarap awwwwwwwwwcthhhhh
Jeanny, hindi lahat ng masakit ay masarap..

poweroflove3

10/21/2009 6:23 pm

Elz,

What i've learn since facing this crisis at the moment. What's the use of being vindictive. Everyone should just really chill and not ask for revenge or what have you to the other party. Because Karma does really happen. When you make someone really sad. Watch out. Life is too short to carry grudges, bitterness, and pain.
Just be glad God gave us the life of breathing. And the most important thing is to be alive and spread the love around...

[I God is pure love...

coolwater2008
162 posts 

10/21/2009 6:36 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Jhon (I hope I got ur name right)...I hope everyone thinks that way...really...but there are those who FEELS happy seeing others get hurt..
sis,,well ive been hurt a couple of times and i am not ashamed to admit it,,but life should go on,,in the end naman theres this word KARMA,,hehehehe

"moving minds tru moving world"

ROXYBARBIE
9177 posts 

10/21/2009 6:45 pm

It's okay to be vigilance of your heart Elz! But it's not okay to get revenge on others. Just let it go, and forget about it. Learn from past mistakes and believe in will come around again and that you will find a person who will treat you the way you want to be treated! I wish you and happiness as always my dear friend. always and we labs yah. . & Hope you .

Live Life to the Fullest! ***Me and YOU***

popi
656 posts 

10/21/2009 6:46 pm

when we get hurt, our first impulse is to lash back... because it gives us a brief sense of comfort - knowing that somehow, we were able to get back at the person who hurt us.

of course, it's ideal to be generous about it and charge the whole thing to experience, but it's really difficult to think clearly when you're in pain... we usually just realize it's wrong after we've recovered from the hurt and are starting to move on

ROXYBARBIE
9177 posts 

10/21/2009 6:47 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Jeanny, hindi lahat ng masakit ay masarap..
Masakit na masarap .

Live Life to the Fullest! ***Me and YOU***

amabella
784 posts 

10/21/2009 7:02 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Hahahahaha! ..I knew this was coming Joyce...But all I can say is HAYZ!
never say... never, Elz

im_stacy
1737 posts 

10/22/2009 3:35 am

    Quoting eb1209:
    Well said, Stacy.....For me, being hurt doesn't mean hating the person..For what? the act of hating will deprive me of being happy. I sure will NOT give any man the satisfaction of seeing/knowing that I am hurt, hateful, and feeling down just because he had wronged me...No! On the contrary, I will even be thankful that things ended the way they did because I deserve something or someone a lot better...Besides, there is no room for hatred in my heart...It'll make me look older than my age...
Choose Not to Stay in Pain. They say this is “self-empowerment.” You can either be bitter about the pains and feel very powerless. Or you can do something and feel powerful enough to handle them. It’s a choice to live with or without pain.

When I low my friends et al give me energy.

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 4:55 am

    Quoting cali4nio:
    , I did show up .... Yes Marivic filled me in and I'm glad you all had a great time. Take care
I hope there will be a second chance for us to meet...Take care too!

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 4:58 am

    Quoting poweroflove3:
    Elz,

    What i've learn since facing this crisis at the moment. What's the use of being vindictive. Everyone should just really chill and not ask for revenge or what have you to the other party. Because Karma does really happen. When you make someone really sad. Watch out. Life is too short to carry grudges, bitterness, and pain.
    Just be glad God gave us the life of breathing. And the most important thing is to be alive and spread the love around...
Tess, I know what you mean..Eh di nga ba, I enjoy life to the fullest now? Why should I fret about something that cannot be fulfilled? Why force someone to love you? or why force yourself to love someone you cannot stomach to see even the face? Ahhh! there are just too many things to enjoy and be thankful in this life..Have a nice day, Tess! Give me a call today, if you have time...I'm off..

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 5:12 am

    Quoting coolwater2008:
    sis,,well ive been hurt a couple of times and i am not ashamed to admit it,,but life should go on,,in the end naman theres this word KARMA,,hehehehe
My dear, it takes a lot for a man to admit being hurt, and my kudos to you...And I do believe that in "love" we're not supposed to be "logical", and for that reason, we tend to be "blind"...Maybe, I am one of the exceptions (in several occasions, and I cannot tell for sure that each time we fall in love, we fall for the wrong person...But, I guess, when two people fail to work things out, they tend to say "it's not meant to be" and make that as an all time high "excuse"...Am I right? or am I right?

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 5:18 am

    Quoting ROXYBARBIE:
    It's okay to be vigilance of your heart Elz! But it's not okay to get revenge on others. Just let it go, and forget about it. Learn from past mistakes and believe in will come around again and that you will find a person who will treat you the way you want to be treated! I wish you and happiness as always my dear friend. always and we labs yah. . & Hope you .
I never been vindictive, as a matter of fact, I tend to be the martyr..I always give in...Because I always believe that if someone really is into me, he will find ways and means to be with me...period!...And I thank you my sweet friend for always wishing me the best specially in the LOVE Dept.

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 5:21 am

    Quoting popi:
    when we get hurt, our first impulse is to lash back... because it gives us a brief sense of comfort - knowing that somehow, we were able to get back at the person who hurt us.

    of course, it's ideal to be generous about it and charge the whole thing to experience, but it's really difficult to think clearly when you're in pain... we usually just realize it's wrong after we've recovered from the hurt and are starting to move on
This is the most realistic way of putting things in perspective, Popi, and thank you for all that honesty...But of course, it happens, and it happens a whole lot...But I am with you, that even if the initial reaction is to get even, eventually, the positive realization in the end is the best outcome....Hep!hep! hurray! thanks for this very realistic comment..

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 5:23 am

    Quoting amabella:
    never say... never, Elz
I hope someone catches this line of yours...Big time CLUE!

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 5:25 am

    Quoting im_stacy:
    Choose Not to Stay in Pain. They say this is “self-empowerment.” You can either be bitter about the pains and feel very powerless. Or you can do something and feel powerful enough to handle them. It’s a choice to live with or without pain.
And my friend, you know, I always CHOOSE to be HAPPY...That is the fact...and I've been in a far worse situation 10 years ago...I survived that turmoil in my life...Everything else after that is...PEANUTS...

jean_1000
389 posts 

10/22/2009 7:03 pm

ayan may second motion pa nga eh... really masakit is masarap

jean_1000
389 posts 

10/22/2009 7:06 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    And my friend, you know, I always CHOOSE to be HAPPY...That is the fact...and I've been in a far worse situation 10 years ago...I survived that turmoil in my life...Everything else after that is...PEANUTS...
10 years naku parang virgin ulit yan hihihi...masakit talaga yan

eb1209
12136 posts

10/22/2009 7:29 pm

    Quoting jean_1000:
    10 years naku parang virgin ulit yan hihihi...masakit talaga yan
Jeanny, did you receive the pics I sent you?

coolwater2008
162 posts 

10/23/2009 12:16 am

    Quoting eb1209:
    My dear, it takes a lot for a man to admit being hurt, and my kudos to you...And I do believe that in "love" we're not supposed to be "logical", and for that reason, we tend to be "blind"...Maybe, I am one of the exceptions (in several occasions, and I cannot tell for sure that each time we fall in love, we fall for the wrong person...But, I guess, when two people fail to work things out, they tend to say "it's not meant to be" and make that as an all time high "excuse"...Am I right? or am I right?
hmm,,theres no such things as not meant to be,choices were made,in love there pain,,theres no perfect relationship,we just have to make it close to being perfect thou,,

"moving minds tru moving world"

eb1209
12136 posts

10/23/2009 2:42 am

    Quoting coolwater2008:
    hmm,,theres no such things as not meant to be,choices were made,in love there pain,,theres no perfect relationship,we just have to make it close to being perfect thou,,
We have the same principle on this one...I wonder if you are a LEO or virgo..Let me see...

ROXYBARBIE
9177 posts 

10/23/2009 6:24 am

    Quoting eb1209:
    I never been vindictive, as a matter of fact, I tend to be the martyr..I always give in...Because I always believe that if someone really is into me, he will find ways and means to be with me...period!...And I thank you my sweet friend for always wishing me the best specially in the LOVE Dept.
I think I am the same way Elz. You are welcome my dear, and I know it's only a matter of time until you are with someone who will always be there for you! Take care always!

Live Life to the Fullest! ***Me and YOU***

jean_1000
389 posts 

10/23/2009 8:35 am

    Quoting eb1209:
    Jeanny, did you receive the pics I sent you?
yes, thank you so much great pix for every one!

eb1209
12136 posts

10/23/2009 7:25 pm

    Quoting ROXYBARBIE:
    I think I am the same way Elz. You are welcome my dear, and I know it's only a matter of time until you are with someone who will always be there for you! Take care always!
Thanks a whole lot my friend..Please say hi to Eldon and the Spice Girls in JAX, FL...

eb1209
12136 posts

10/23/2009 7:26 pm

    Quoting jean_1000:
    yes, thank you so much great pix for every one!
You and Leah, have that sugary smile...How sweet!

coolwater2008
162 posts 

10/24/2009 7:37 am

    Quoting eb1209:
    We have the same principle on this one...I wonder if you are a LEO or virgo..Let me see...
cancer hehehe,,

"moving minds tru moving world"

eb1209
12136 posts

10/24/2009 6:53 pm

Ngek! toxic ka pala!

im_stacy
1737 posts 

10/25/2009 3:56 am

    Quoting eb1209:
    And my friend, you know, I always CHOOSE to be HAPPY...That is the fact...and I've been in a far worse situation 10 years ago...I survived that turmoil in my life...Everything else after that is...PEANUTS...
Continue to be an inspiration to others, I believe that's one of the many reasons you are here.

When I low my friends et al give me energy.

ROXYBARBIE
9177 posts 

10/25/2009 10:12 am

    Quoting eb1209:
    Thanks a whole lot my friend..Please say hi to Eldon and the Spice Girls in JAX, FL...
No problem. Okee dokeee I will relay your message to Eldon when I see him again. I Talked with the spice girls and asked them if they would like to go to Las Vegas next year, so lets see. It's Gina's Birthday on May next year and she is planning to celebrate her b-day on a cruise and told her that we could go to Las Vegas instead. And she said okay. Lets see what happens, so I will cross my fingers... The more the merrier. You know me I like a big group. So you better meet us there Elz k'. Do you have a specific date you will be there for planning purposes?


Live Life to the Fullest! ***Me and YOU***

coolwater2008
162 posts 

10/25/2009 6:02 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Ngek! toxic ka pala!
d naman toxic,,wala naman ako sa ward eh

"moving minds tru moving world"

eb1209
12136 posts

10/25/2009 6:49 pm

    Quoting im_stacy:
    Continue to be an inspiration to others, I believe that's one of the many reasons you are here.
Meaning, naging Theme song ko rin ang " I will survive", ganun?

eb1209
12136 posts

10/25/2009 6:51 pm

    Quoting ROXYBARBIE:
    No problem. Okee dokeee I will relay your message to Eldon when I see him again. I Talked with the spice girls and asked them if they would like to go to Las Vegas next year, so lets see. It's Gina's Birthday on May next year and she is planning to celebrate her b-day on a cruise and told her that we could go to Las Vegas instead. And she said okay. Lets see what happens, so I will cross my fingers... The more the merrier. You know me I like a big group. So you better meet us there Elz k'. Do you have a specific date you will be there for planning purposes?

You guys, plan ahead of time, and I will organize ours, to coincide with yours..SOLVED!

eb1209
12136 posts

10/25/2009 6:52 pm

Eh di, ibulong mo na lang sa akin kung NASAAN ka..

coolwater2008
162 posts 

10/25/2009 8:32 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    Eh di, ibulong mo na lang sa akin kung NASAAN ka..
just here,,close,,sa garden ,,,,hehehehe,,

"moving minds tru moving world"

eb1209
12136 posts

10/26/2009 3:45 am

I'll be in New York City this coming Nov. 13-16, close enough to be in the Garden State...Yeah?

ROXYBARBIE
9177 posts 

10/27/2009 10:01 pm

    Quoting eb1209:
    You guys, plan ahead of time, and I will organize ours, to coincide with yours..SOLVED!
K' will do that then..... Hope it will proceed as planned!...

Live Life to the Fullest! ***Me and YOU***

eb1209
12136 posts

10/28/2009 10:42 pm

    Quoting ROXYBARBIE:
    K' will do that then..... Hope it will proceed as planned!...
Hopefully, my dear...Hopefully things will fall into place...

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