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Sulei 66M
6786 posts
9/18/2009 6:40 pm

Last Read:
10/10/2009 1:15 pm

Heart or Pride


As I was thinking of some girls with broken hearts, the following question came to my mind:

Is it the heart, or the pride of a woman that she feels was broken after she break up with her husband or bf?
and nevertheless which one she really feels broken, what could be more hurting, breaking a woman heart, or breaking her pride?
in other words, is it really all the same for all women in such a situation feeling the pain, or it differes from someone to another, and what counts more to a woman, her heart or pride?

The relevant qustion is, is it all the same for a married woman being cheated by her husband, and a girl who was cheated by her bf?
I mean would it be different, heart or pride that was broken when it comes a married or unmarried woman, or married ones care more for their prides rather than their hearts?

This blog is meant or expected to be commented on mostly by women, but guys are even welcomed if they have a say about it!




mia_belle 38F
533 posts
9/18/2009 7:06 pm

Mars and Venus? Nope.
The only problem between the genders
is that we each have the others needs
and wants backwards.
Men want to be needed,
and women need to be wanted.
Not the other way around.
It's that simple! Happy Weekend..


*It's all said & done, it's real, and it's been fun.*


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/18/2009 8:11 pm

    Quoting mia_belle:
    Mars and Venus? Nope.
    The only problem between the genders
    is that we each have the others needs
    and wants backwards.
    Men want to be needed,
    and women need to be wanted.
    Not the other way around.
    It's that simple! Happy Weekend..

i liked this explanation!
very logical to me!
i can only agree with that!
have a great weekend too



Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 4:34 am

Mia, I think I replied to this comment which I appreciated so much and do agree with it totally, but FFF again are holding some comments! lol let us wait and see when do they release them. have a happy weekend


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 8:38 am

    Quoting  :

zinzie, do u mean losing the person and losing the "need" to a guy, is not the same? meaning this "need" can be fulfilled by and "guy"!


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 8:39 am

    Quoting  :

so, heart comes first!


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 8:42 am

    Quoting  :

hello olive "if am not mistaken"
in brief u mean to say the heart comes first too?
well..
the other question now, is it different from a man to a woman?
you think a man would care more for his pride, where a woman cares more for her heart?



poweroflove3 64F

9/19/2009 9:02 am

Good morning Sulei,

It's the heart that is deeply broken. Pride doesn't come close. The soul is deeply hurt. And it takes a long time to heal...

[I God is pure love...


jane82 110F

9/19/2009 12:10 pm

Heart or pride?
Very interesting question Sulei.

Perhaps it depends on what it at stake and how it ended regardless of gender. The more emotionally involved the couple were or at least one of them (ie. have kids or not, married or not, truly love the person rather than lusted after the person or not), the more it hurts the heart rather than the pride. The more intensely you love someone the more your heart feels the pain.

Whereas, if you only invested in a relationship with time, usually a short time and money, but not loved nor really care enough for each other's feelings, then you're more likely to be hurt with pride rather than hurt your heart.

Love melts away the selfish underpinnings we have for ourselves that gets in the way of loving someone else and not just yourself, which leads to pride.

In short, love dissolves pride.



within each one of us, and let it begin with me (and each one of us)..one breath at a time.


jean_1000 47F

9/19/2009 2:04 pm

sulei dear, we don't care about pride if we really love our man...have a nice weekend dear...

love is the greatest gift of all


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 4:52 pm

    Quoting poweroflove3:
    Good morning Sulei,

    It's the heart that is deeply broken. Pride doesn't come close. The soul is deeply hurt. And it takes a long time to heal...
my dear friend, I can see that! it is all clear! thanks for sharing ur thoughts and have a nice Sunday


prejudice39 57F

9/19/2009 4:56 pm

it goes hand and hand be it be pride or heart
it all boils down to breaking ones trust and
eventually giving another chance or totally
closing the door.

as for me, chances are given with restrictions
or consequences. we are all adults to talk about
it specially if we need to consider the people
involve around us and the degree of damage done.
weighing this and that, will eventually turn out
with a win win solution at the end.


What you read, what you hear, leave it here!


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 5:09 pm

    Quoting jane82:
    Heart or pride?
    Very interesting question Sulei.

    Perhaps it depends on what it at stake and how it ended regardless of gender. The more emotionally involved the couple were or at least one of them (ie. have kids or not, married or not, truly love the person rather than lusted after the person or not), the more it hurts the heart rather than the pride. The more intensely you love someone the more your heart feels the pain.

    Whereas, if you only invested in a relationship with time, usually a short time and money, but not loved nor really care enough for each other's feelings, then you're more likely to be hurt with pride rather than hurt your heart.

    Love melts away the selfish underpinnings we have for ourselves that gets in the way of loving someone else and not just yourself, which leads to pride.

    In short, love dissolves pride.
hello Janey, nice to see u back here and I'm really thankful for your addition, and full reply! Yet, I was wondering, does it have to do with the culture and education of a woman to feel differently towards whether it is her heart or pride that is hurt? I have known and heard a lot of stories of women in my region "Middle East" complaining about their pride that was severely hurt after they discovered that their men were cheating them! well, it is surly becoming more interesting here with all the similar replies of the ladies, and i don't deny my surprise


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 5:12 pm

    Quoting jean_1000:
    sulei dear, we don't care about pride if we really love our man...have a nice weekend dear...
hello jean. well it is obvious to me now! thanks for your visit and have a nice Sunday


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/19/2009 5:22 pm

    Quoting prejudice39:
    it goes hand and hand be it be pride or heart
    it all boils down to breaking ones trust and
    eventually giving another chance or totally
    closing the door.

    as for me, chances are given with restrictions
    or consequences. we are all adults to talk about
    it specially if we need to consider the people
    involve around us and the degree of damage done.
    weighing this and that, will eventually turn out
    with a win win solution at the end.

hello prejudice, nice to see u back, thanks for ur comment, that i shouldn't say it sounded differently, but more carefully! knowing u that well, makes me understand ur point of view clearly too


jane82 110F

9/20/2009 9:11 am

    Quoting Sulei:
    hello Janey, nice to see u back here and I'm really thankful for your addition, and full reply! Yet, I was wondering, does it have to do with the culture and education of a woman to feel differently towards whether it is her heart or pride that is hurt? I have known and heard a lot of stories of women in my region "Middle East" complaining about their pride that was severely hurt after they discovered that their men were cheating them! well, it is surly becoming more interesting here with all the similar replies of the ladies, and i don't deny my surprise
Since I hardly know anything about Middle Eastern culture, you'd be more than qualified Sulei to understand the cultural differences than the rest of us ladies here.

What is apparent is that Middle Eastern women don't have as much equal opportunity rights as other women in the western parts of the world or the westernized part of the world. This could possibly help explain why their pride hurts more.

Cultural differences is certainly something to look into. Seems like the role of the heart is very much valued in Filipino culture. This isn't necessarily the same in other cultures, other body parts could be seen as more valuable or just as valuable as the heart for eg. the role of brain, stomach, kidney, hands...



within each one of us, and let it begin with me (and each one of us)..one breath at a time.


mcjamque
(mcjamque )
44F
95 posts
9/20/2009 1:38 pm

when a relationship ends,the whole you will be shattered and turns your self into pieces,pain is inevitable thus it's hard to know which one was deeply hurt....the more intimate the relationship was and the more it lasted, the more painful it would be.

heart and soul(pride)do come along in serious relationships,the cause of the break up will determine what was really hurt the most-your heart or your pride.in many cases,one of the major cause of relationship break ups is philandering,sad to know but it's a fact,and if that's the case i think both heart and pride are just but equally hurt,down and wounded...

very relevant and interesting topic Sulie,keep it up


smiley1957 66F

9/20/2009 7:54 pm

hi sulei
my say...

when a married woman is cheated...it's complicated...u can't just walk away...u have kids to consider...and their hearts are broken too...and u know mom's feel so much for their kids...and so they are torn between two decisions of whether... staying for the sake of the kids(and that's a sign of actually swallowing one's pride )...or the decision of...getting out of the relationship no matter what

while if a gurl is single...and cheated by her BF ONLY...it's easier to just go away....split...no worries (but just a little bit of pain )

but in general...married or not...a woman is always left with a broken heart and a wounded pride



Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/21/2009 6:09 pm

    Quoting jane82:
    Since I hardly know anything about Middle Eastern culture, you'd be more than qualified Sulei to understand the cultural differences than the rest of us ladies here.

    What is apparent is that Middle Eastern women don't have as much equal opportunity rights as other women in the western parts of the world or the westernized part of the world. This could possibly help explain why their pride hurts more.

    Cultural differences is certainly something to look into. Seems like the role of the heart is very much valued in Filipino culture. This isn't necessarily the same in other cultures, other body parts could be seen as more valuable or just as valuable as the heart for eg. the role of brain, stomach, kidney, hands...
I think u r right, Jane, about Middle eastern women, specially when a man marry a second wife, in that case not only the first wife's heart, pride and soul are broken, but everything in her collapse down! Which is really painful and impossible to heal


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/21/2009 6:14 pm

    Quoting mcjamque:
    when a relationship ends,the whole you will be shattered and turns your self into pieces,pain is inevitable thus it's hard to know which one was deeply hurt....the more intimate the relationship was and the more it lasted, the more painful it would be.

    heart and soul(pride)do come along in serious relationships,the cause of the break up will determine what was really hurt the most-your heart or your pride.in many cases,one of the major cause of relationship break ups is philandering,sad to know but it's a fact,and if that's the case i think both heart and pride are just but equally hurt,down and wounded...

    very relevant and interesting topic Sulie,keep it up
mcjamque, thanks a lot for ur addition! u have discussed it from another point of view as how a real soft sensitive woman would react! in such a case, it does not matter what is more hurting heart or pride, because the pain overcome her entirely! thanks again my friend


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/21/2009 6:22 pm

    Quoting smiley1957:
    hi sulei
    my say...

    when a married woman is cheated...it's complicated...u can't just walk away...u have kids to consider...and their hearts are broken too...and u know mom's feel so much for their kids...and so they are torn between two decisions of whether... staying for the sake of the kids(and that's a sign of actually swallowing one's pride )...or the decision of...getting out of the relationship no matter what

    while if a gurl is single...and cheated by her BF ONLY...it's easier to just go away....split...no worries (but just a little bit of pain )

    but in general...married or not...a woman is always left with a broken heart and a wounded pride

smiley, thanks for enlightening us about another aspect of the problem! it shows clearly how mothers would sacrifice for their kids in spite of their broken heart and hurt prides sometimes! an interesting point of view, smiley!


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/21/2009 6:24 pm

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hey blue! positive thinking! but the problem remains there, even when we close our eyes and pretend to be not seeing it!


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/22/2009 4:56 pm

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hello Ms. Broken_Hearted_Diamond people who care for their pride, are like palm trees, they die standing!


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/22/2009 4:58 pm

    Quoting  :

hello Ms. bla bla bla! what happened to your marriage plans? was is also just a bla bla bla?


Sulei 66M
8039 posts
9/23/2009 2:28 am

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You are already grown up girl, and have had experienced life so well!


adelaide_caelan 43F
537 posts
9/23/2009 6:02 am

based on psychology, each of us have our own unique personality, it means we may be experiencing the same situation and yet we react and feel differently.take the case of identical twins who grew up in separate areas, one was raised in the city while the other from the countryside. the city raised twin is most likely to be more liberated in ideals, might be more outgoing whereas the country raised twin might be more reserved and be a homebuddy.

going back to the questions, i think each woman who would comment here has her own share of experience as to what degree of pain, loss or isolation she felt when she was heartbroken. whether she considers pride or heart that was broken is also subjective.

on a personal note, i think my pride was hurt when one of my ex's left me amidst all my efforts and sacrifices (based on self evaluation, i looked at the love i gave as emotional investment and so when i was left i really felt the "loss" of what i invested) whereas my heart was really crushed when i was cheated by another ex whom i thought at that time as my MR. RIGHT. I made him my world, accepted his flaws and embraced his weaknesses not only his strengths. Pride was unknown to me at that time coz I never got angry, I forgave him easily.